Committee OKs science ed bill

Okay, so Intelligent Design has been proven in court to be Creationism under a new name. Creationism has been proven to be a religous doctrine and not a scienfic theory. Other than forcing some poor parents to go to court when their kid comes home from the formerly named "Biology" class which would then be more appropriately called "Introduction to Religous Indoctrination" to re-iterate the fact that ID IS religion in psuedo-scientific clothing, what will this bill provide?? Science teachers, according to the letter of this bill, aren't allowed to teach religion, which is exactly what the proponents of this bill are hoping to slide into science class through ID - which, although they CLAIM it to be science, has already been shown to be religion. There are times I hang my head and am ashamed of my state and this is definitely one of them.

This is ridiculous. There are churches every mile in Louisiana and across the state. If religious people want to teach their children about God, and how he created the universe, they can go to any of these churches. They are open Wednesdays and Sundays for sure, and if you want additional lecturing of religious ideas, ask if the church has a Sunday School course. I am a sophomore at Southeastern majoring in Biology education. I would be appalled if the state required me to teach "intelligent design," because frankly, evolution is backed by piles of evidence, and is a fact, with the only theories being of specific mechanisms which are still being researched. But that's okay, this will only hurt the religious community in the long run. Do you think a Biology teacher is qualified to talk about religion? Biology teachers could end up teaching the "word" incorrectly, therefore tainting the religion further than it has already been by man. Leave preaching to the preachers and teaching to the teachers. On a second note, this is also a waste of tax payer money, since this will go back to the Supreme Court if it's passed, and be shot down, just like in Kansas. So way to go Louisiana Legislators; you're going to end up costing the state millions for rubbish bills, and I'd like to extend this thanks to the Livingston Parish politicians who are wasting time on a bill banning "witchcraft."

Don't get me wrong....I'm against this bill; HOWEVER...my child has gone to Christian Life Academy his entire school career. At best, I'd call it an ANTI-evolution school. He has been taught about evolution since 1st grade. The teacher my son had in 5th grade was a rabid anti-evolutionist. In both her social studies and science classes, she taught about evolution for six weeks. When his tests came home, I was livid. Both tests had questions, answered correctly, stating that people who believed in evolution were athiests. My son and I had a long talk about it, and I realized that he had learned something in 5th grade that I did not learn until LSU. School is simply a place where you answer questions on a test in the manner in which a teacher wants you to answer the question. You don't have to believe what they're saying to answer the question correctly. All people may not be intelligent enough to realize this, but with the parents at home monitoring they're children's activities, the parents should be able to teach the child what they feel is right, while still helping the child pass the class. As time has gone by, my son has received an excellent education in evolution. No other teacher has come out with the athiest crap. As a note, evolution information is given out in both religion and science classes. Thankfully. however, the science teachers make their opinion clear and then teach evolution anyway. My child will graduate having heard about evolution for 12 years. The school has done it's best to tell him it was wrong, while reinforcing annually that it does, in fact, exist.

Return the duty of education to the private sector from whence it came and where it belongs. Thereafter, if you disagree with the subject matter being taught, vote with your wallet. Besides, who in their right mind wants the state legislature deciding on what ANYONE is taught?

Jonathan, I hate to burst your naive bubble but there is no proven evidence of evolution.

As a confirmed heathen I must protest this bill! I am, however, quite pleased that lap-dancing shall remain legal. A fair trade-off, in my opinion. Gotta love our family valued Christian legislators!!

"Opponents charged that the bill is designed to inject religious teachings in public classrooms, including creationism and intelligent design." Of course that's what this bill is all about. It gives incompetent biology teachers permission to teach magic instead of science. Christian idiots never stop attacking science education. Morons are attracted to the Christian religion, and Christianity makes them even more stupid. If this bill is passed, there will be a trial just like in Dover. The Christian hicks will lose again, wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayer money. Believe any childish nonsense you want Christian morons, but your breathtaking stupidity will never be allowed in our public schools.

"Citizen", you're a perfect example of why this bill should not have been passed. You obviously have very little comprehension about science and evolution, which I'll attribute to a poor education. Evolution is undeniable.

Wow, Citizen, you're so right. I've never seen leaves fall off a tree or heard about bacteria and viruses developing immunity to antibiotics. And fossils clearly prove that everything has remained exactly the same for the last 6000 years and that nothing existed before that. [/sarcasm] Seriously dude, science is your friend. Give it a look some time.

Citizen said "Jonathan, I hate to burst your naive bubble but there is no proven evidence of evolution." Mr. Citizen, you don't know what you're talking about. You're so afraid of reality you are willing to throw out modern biology. Study the molecular evidence. Find out how biologists determine evolutionary relationships with 100% certainty. Find out what it means when identical ERVs are found in the exact same place in the genome of two or more species. And stop lying about science. You don't even know what science is and you got a lot of nerve to spread lies about it. You need to grow up, educate yourself, and face facts. You are wasting your life living in your childish everything-is-magic fantasy world.

A recent poll showed that 16% of high school biology teachers are creationists. Creationism is not science. Creationism, including intelligent design creationism, is an idiotic childish belief in magic. These incompetent biology teachers need to be ridiculed, fired, and never allowed to teach science again. The anti-science bill that was passed by the Louisiana Senate would give these incompetent teachers the right to lie about science. This bill is not fair to students who want and deserve a good education. This bill should be thrown out, the politicians who support this bill should be voted out, and the creationist teachers must be fired.

A recent poll showed that 16% of high school biology teachers are creationists. Creationism is not science. Creationism, including intelligent design creationism, is an idiotic childish belief in magic. These incompetent biology teachers need to be ridiculed, fired, and never allowed to teach science again. The anti-science bill that was passed by the Louisiana Senate would give these incompetent teachers the right to lie about science. This bill is not fair to students who want and deserve a good education. This bill should be thrown out, the politicians who support this bill should be voted out, and the creationist teachers must be fired.

"This bill is about science education, period," said Sen. Ben Nevers, D-Bogalusa and sponsor of the measure. "There is no hidden agenda." Mr. Nevers, did you really say this...and with a straight face? To quote Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:36, "You foolish person!"

The Louisiana Legislature is living proof that evolution did not occur, they still act like a bunch of apes. Also the Louisiana Legislature is living proof that the intelligent designed either has a sense of humor or has an evil streak.

The "Theory of Evolution" is just that, a theory, but it is based on information from a number of sources and it changes as new information is uncovered. Over the years, creationists have done much to improve and refine the various theories associated with evolution. So what they want to do is legislate it away.

"Jonathan, I hate to burst your naive bubble but there is no proven evidence of evolution. " This statement does not make any sense, it lacks an intelligent designer.

How can you even teach Intelligent Design? "One day, this big guy in the sky snapped his fingers and everything that you have ever known was created out of nothing. That's right, matter was created out of absolutely nothing.. Then he took a break. Okay, moving on to math..." Just seems kinda boring to me. Well, and not to mention completely false, but mostly just boring. At least evolution is interesting.

I am very saddened that this idiotic bill ever made it out of the committee room. No dissenting votes...unbelievable. However, if anyone thinks our new and supposedly educated Govenor will veto this bill, assuming it makes it to his desk, which I'm sure it will, then think again. Jindal stated during his campaign at a Desoto Parish rally that he supports teaching Creationism in our public schools. Therefore, there should be no doubt he will sign this Dark Ages piece of junk. Very sad day for Louisiana and embarrasing to say the least.

Let me get this straight. Religion is going to be taught as science. (And I hate to burst anyone's bubble who thinks there's no physical evidence for evolution - there's no physical evidence for creationism either. Where are fossils, amino acids, atoms & molecules etc, mentioned in Genesis?) So, if creationism/religion replaces evolution, I don't see any reason not to teach alchemy as chemistry or astrology as astronomy. Why not teach that life arrived via a spaceship from another planet. Seems just as legitimate a theory as biblical theory.

Let me get this straight. The teaching of religion replaces or has equal time as evolution. No evidence for evolution? Um, do you even know what the theory of evolution says? I doubt any anti-evolutionists have even taken Biology 101. So if creationism/intelligent design replaces evolution, I see no logical reason not to teach alchemy as chemisty or astrology as astronomy. And I hate to burst anyone's naive bubble but the theory that life came to earth on a spaceship from another planet is as reasonable a theory as biblical theory.

Who cares? It's Louisiana! We expect you to grow 'em stupid down there. Just bring on the turducken -- now that's evolved! Bury evolution education in the bayou and let the witch hunts begin.

Congrats, Louisiana! Please require intelligent design in all science classes. My kids appreciate it. While my kids pursue careers in science, yours can earn a living by cleaning the toilets in the same building. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Dear 'Citizen', "Jonathan, I hate to burst your naive bubble but there is no proven evidence of CREATIONISM." I went ahead and fixed that last word for you. Also, you are dumb.